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This is what the actual exchange on TV with the Secretary of Education appointed by the 45th person occupying the WH with Chris Wallace on the republicans fav network... "Is it really fair, is it reasonable to compare the situation in countries that have 20 new cases in a day with a country that has 68,000 new cases in a day?" he asked. "Well, we're talking about schools and other countries' experiences with reopening schools. And it has been shown to be very successful," DeVos said. "But schools happen in an environment," Wallace replied. "If there are 30 cases in a country, that's very different than a place where it's out of control and there are 70,000 new cases in a day." Though cases are on the rise in nearly every state, DeVos said the places that are "out of control" were "the exception." She said that when hot spots do appear, they have to be "dealt with differently."