The Back Step Boys

 Ronnie Kanterman and Tommy Aurnhammer invite guests Chief Joe Jardin and Chief Frank Leeb from the FDNY.  While the fireground is where they lived their entire career, these two battle hardened veterans discuss fire prevention, protection and public fire safety education. As line officers and later on as Staff Chiefs, they made it one of their priorities in order to ensure that these activities were part and parcel to everyday job duties for their companies, battalions, divisions and bureaus. Jardin as Chief of Fire Prevention and Leeb as Chief of Safety tie these tasks to firefighter health and safety and how they are critical to assisting the public as well as surviving a fire service  career.

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