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"if you have heaven as a place where you are rewarded for your goodness and hell as a place where you are punished for your evil then you sort of have control of the population" "we talk about being 'born again', when you are 'born again' you are still a child; the people do not need to be 'born again', they need to 'grow up' and accept responsibility for themselves and the world" "the idea that the truth of God can be bound in any human system, by any human creed, by any human book is almost beyond imangiation"
